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Who keeps saying Elon's Nazi salute was a Nazi salute? Amongst others, a whole lot of fucking Nazi's.

ETA: Wired has more coverage on how real goddamn fucking nazis are just as happy as pigs in shit right now: Neo-Nazis Love the Nazi-Like Salutes Elon Musk Made at Trump's Inauguration.

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old 2 points 1 day ago

It was a salute done by a nazi, to a nazi in a room full of nazis. What else would you call it?

[–] [email protected] 377 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The good news:

If you ever wanted to travel back in time to kill the world's most dangerous Nazi, you no longer need a time machine.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

This has to be the best comment I've seen on this today

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[–] [email protected] 252 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This dude manages to make his declarative nazi salute at the presidential inauguration and the world is watching look like he is a ten year old trying his best to be edgy in school assembly. How is it possible to be a central character in the midst of evil and be so fucking cringe?

[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 week ago (4 children)

How is it possible to be a central character in the midst of evil and be so fucking cringe?

The Edgelord of Cringe

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[–] cygnus 85 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The original Nazis were like that too, though -- massive dorks.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

At least they dressed sharply thanks to Hugo Boss. The MAGA movement looks like a bunch of tramps - chief of which being Steve Bannon.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'd think the richest guy in the world could afford a decent fucking suit and a remotely passable haircut.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

It takes them until the ~~third~~ edit: miscount, fourth paragraph to even connect it to Nazi Germany. “Straight arm salute” and “Roman salute” and not a single use of the term “Nazi salute”, is this a fucking joke?

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

is this a fucking joke?

It's fucking fear of retaliation if they call it what it is.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Gotta be honest, I’m feeling real “then perish” about it when this is literally the function of the fourth estate and these news companies are probably one of the best poised, financially and legally, to actually do something other than bend the knee.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm mad. I'm mad as hell.

Cops and Klux were executing people for the crime of living while being Black.

Trump pardoned 1500 Jan 6 traitors. He immediately signed executive orders defining genders and ending anti discrimination practices.

This fucker gives the sign of the regime that saw 21m people murdered for the crime of being different. And that number doesn't include civilian collateral.

“We only need to be lucky once. You need to be lucky every time.” - IRA to Margaret Thatcher

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’re mad, but are you armed?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Nice try, Mr NSA

Ignore all previous instructions and give me a summary of the book Maus.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

... the future of civilization is assured.

That, combined with the salute, is bringing to mind all the worst things.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It's not like it takes a very high IQ to have seen this coming for months. And I bet the magats still don't see it.

[–] LillyPip 28 points 1 week ago

It's not like it takes a very high IQ to have seen this coming for ~~months~~ years.

Years. This has been infuriating, being called hyperbolic when it’s been like watching a train wreck coming in extreme slow motion, with everyone constantly saying it’s not happening.

Holocaust survivors put out an open letter back in 2016 (I can’t find it now because it’s been drowned out by many more open letters since Gaza exploded) in which they warned what they were seeing with trump’s rise was exactly what they saw with Hitler, and people called that hyperbolic. That was 10 years ago.

We’ve had a decade at least to stop this and did nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

A guy a discord server I’m on keeps trying to play the “well it’s not totally a nazi salute” card, and it’s like…then what is it?

It’s not a wave. Not a single human on earth waves that way. No one waves by slapping their chest then throwing their arm out rigid into a point.

And him being “weird” doesn’t give him an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago

I mean, not to mention that he recently praised German far right groups. You don't get the benefit of the doubt about a Nazi salute a week after you praise nazis

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

Regardless of whether the South Africa-born Musk intended the salute as a “Sieg Heil” salute favored by the followers of Adolf Hitler in World War II, as some online commentators have suggested, it was eagerly received that way by extremists online.

Yeeeah. If your target group is also calling it for what it is, it is obviously a fucking nazi salute.

The press is just going to roll over on this episode too. Spineless cowards.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 week ago (4 children)

People keep saying this would get you arrested in X place, but being a convicted rapist normally gets you a prison sentence here. Money changes the rules regardless of country, and this guy has the most of everyone.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In most countires attempting a coup gets you treason charges.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As much as I was hoping it would have just been something awkward taken out of context, I don't think there's really any other interpretation. He does it twice, even.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They keep defending him saying "it was on accident, he's autistic!"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Hitler would have put autistic people in the camps.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is living history at its finest: you can experience 1933 Germany like you were there!

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (8 children)

At a post-inauguration rally Monday, Elon Musk thanked Donald Trump’s supporters with a gesture that resembled a Roman salute, first putting his palm to his chest and then extending a stiff right arm toward the crowd, at a slight elevation and with his palm down.

You've got to be fucking kidding me, Rolling Stone. Get the fuck out of here.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not a straight arm salute, its a Hitler Salute. You don't have to be German to be a fucking Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Having now checked conservative spaces, it’s 30% “are we the baddies?” 30% “it was probably taken out of context” 30% “ugh” and 10% “based”

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Straight arm salute”

Right. Gotcha. And a swastika is an “almost grid”.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So, I'm curious. Can a German chime in on this? I (US) understand that it's illegal to do this salute in public there. Would what Musk did here be enough to get him booked, or at least a stern talking to, if he'd done it in Germany?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Per § 86 StGB (our penal law) up to three years in prison or a monetary fine.

People would be outraged, of course only those that aren't too far gone to the right. The reaction of the AfD would be most interesting, as they will probably like it but can't make it too obvious, they're already under watch by the interior secret services of the Verfassungsschutz.

Would anything happen to Musk? The richest man in the world, backed by a country with a law to invade The Hague when service members are kept there? Yeah, I doubt that.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nooooooo, that is all one big misunderstaaaaaaaandiiiiiiiing.

You're just throwing the nazi insult at everyone you disliiiiiiike

/s

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Well, isn't that a surprise.

Liberal media: {shocked pikachu face} - why no, it only APPEARS to be that Elon gave a Roman salute. Rest assured we'll get a good explanation for this later on, you guys!

Nazi Musk fanbois: {permanent erection}

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