USA is in free fall
this post was submitted on 24 Apr 2025
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How does USA score so high? It should be trending into transition territory since citizens have been detained without due process and people disagreeing with the administration disappear or having funding revoked to keep them hushed
How does USA score so high?
The period studied was June 1, 2023 – May 31, 2024.
Long before Trump was re-elected.
Ah, next period will be interesting
Doesn't really feel like it.
Why do you think so?
Housing crisis; cost of living; people in the vancouver DTES getting tormented by the police; indigenous people generally not treated well
I can see your point about the housing crisis in a way. It restricts people's ability to have a place to live and, shelter. But does that really affect their freedom? Cost of living also is difficult but it's not really preventing you from being "free" in the sense of the word. Or is it? I may be missing the point.
I'm completely ignorant to policing issues, especially in Vancouver. I generally don't agree with law enforcement having too much control.
In my region of BC the reconciliation stuff has been very well received mostly. Indigenous people are a big part of the community and their culture has expanded into the school system, their businesses are successful. Housing projects for indigenous have also been going on constantly.
Both of our 2.5 parties bleed money without significantly improving quality of life for people at the bottom.
Do any of the other countries have Native communities living in Third World conditions with either bad water, little water or even no water?
I always find it hilarious that anyone ranks Canada in any First World metric when everyone just glosses over the fact that portions of the population live in complete poverty by design.
Imagine how bad others have it.
For the record, I agree with you - I live in Manitoba, with the highest indigenous and Metis population and a poor province. First Nation's people still suffer deep inequality and systemic barriers to success. That's the disclaimer.
Canada has made a tremendous amount of progress socially and systemically in a very short period of time. 30 years ago residential schools were still operating. Many forms of discrimination were still legal and socially accepted. Open racism was much worse. Many more communities had no water supplies and no economic prospects, and no federal government support.
Canada has a long way to go - hundreds of years of oppression cannot be undone in 30 years. But the fact that we're able to make progress so quickly is indicative of the fact that our society is free to push for these sorts of changes and see results. We have an Indigenous premier! That would have been entirely unthinkable just a third of a lifetime ago. Many forms of discrimination have been made illegal, federal funds have been directed for direct and indirect support, water plants have been built, languages are being taught and preserved, and the social perspectives are massively different. We have much work to do, but I don't think we should be dismissive of the systems that have allowed us to do lots of work already.
Freedom is not well-being. We're free to express frustrations, demands and desires, however government doesn't feel obligated to act on it... So scores are probably right (for the moment) but it does not translates to human rights charter being fully implemented/supported by government.
The freedom you're looking for costs resources. They're more about that $0, feelgud freedom.
Canada needs to have a higher representation of indigenous representatives in government like New Zealand does however they still have issues with inequality.
Many indigenous people run, and win, under the Conservative and Liberal banner. You have clearly made your points regarding your feelings on those two parties, but you are also saying we need more representation.
What steps are you taking personally to see more representation in Government regarding indigenous people? Would you vote Conservative or Liberal to see more of that representation?
We do have native populations that have been mistreated. I don’t think we’ve apologised for the eugenics.
We’re behind countries with proportional representation once again. We the electorate must heavily pressure the 2 big parties to pass electoral reform.
Honest question: do you work for Fair Vote? I get their emails, so I am down with the goal, but I see you explicitly link to the community (where you're a mod) a lot.
No, I’m not currently signed up to volunteer with them as I really personally believe in the proportional representation reform and the organization has not endorsed the community.
That’s why the community has the unofficial disclaimer.
I'm pretty skeptical about this result, but if you think about a perfect 100 points not as a marker of true ideal freedom and prosparity, but rather a degree of freedom from blatant easily quantifiable oppression (in other words reverse the numbers and mark it as the oppression index), then the result does sound more reasonable.
Canada has made great strides and is ahead in many ways, but that's because so many major countries have such high degree of public oppression. We're one of the best in a quite dystopic world, which really isn't saying much when you are looking at ideas, and which also means we still have a massive amount to go.
Just a note but I don't believe Freedom House is the most accurate report (Look at Germany and how they are handling certain types of protests). But it's sfill useful in many aspects, but it shouldn't be the sole source of truth
wait until after election. Something tells me that two main contenders are eyeing to curb some freedoms to various degrees. Arguably Conservatives being on a more authoritarian track with Liberals tracking not too far behind
Something tells me that two main contenders are eyeing to curb some freedoms to various degrees. Arguably Conservatives being on a more authoritarian track with Liberals tracking not too far behind
What could possibly be telling you that a Carney led Liberal Government would lead to an Authoritarian Government?